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JYX · Dec 26, 2006, 11:15 PM // 23:15

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Originally Posted by Deleet

You can just interupt it, disable it, spike him or knock him down. This can easily be done, even in RA.

You can do that with all spells. Spells must suck.

Racthoh · Dec 26, 2006, 11:27 PM // 23:27

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Originally Posted by Faer

Since when? Did I miss something here? Was there a ninja update in the past few hours that made ZB worth my elite slot?

With Glyph of Lesser Energy, ZB became very popular. Not to mention in a situation where you will probably be the only monk (RA as the OP mentioned) snagging that conditional energy gain on ZB is a lot easier to control.

lacasner · Dec 27, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57

And blinding surge, I mean for 5 secs and near instant recharge and like 50 dmg, how can that skill also cause blinding for 9 seconds and not cause exhaustion??

Gimme Money Plzkthx · Dec 27, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

Hmmm let us go over a few skill comparisons from nightfall and previous campaigns. Divert hexes>>>>>>>>>>expel hexes and withdraw hexes, maybe combined lol. Searing flames... closest comparison is rodgort's invocation, but it is so overpowered that using another skill in the same sentence isn't really fair. Blinding surge vs. say... glimmering mark or something... the list goes on.

Winstar · Dec 27, 2006, 02:27 AM // 02:27

For the kicker its also aoe if your target enchanted. So, if you have 2 melee swarming 1 person, and if your target has an enchant (is a dervish or got some prot from a monk etc...or unfortunate mending warrior) then both are blinded for the price of 1 cast

. Anyway, mending touch/plague touch etc are helpful, but they aren't going to keep you clean and if they blinder knows what they are doing and time it well they can shut you when it counts, i.e. you're about to unload adrenaline or in screwing over your sin chain. But its the cheap spammability thats also annoying.

My favorite RA toon at the moment is a mes/ele with bsurge/spiritualpain/gale and such. I love spiritual pain sooo much vs rits who clump their spirits and make their team huddle around them. I hate spirit spammers in RA so much, they ruin matches. I hate playing on their team and hate playing against them and the worst is the spirit camp standoffs. Spiritual pain ends this and so I <3 spiritual pain in RA. Nothing personal but those matches just bore me to tears.

Zealous is in general ok, but better in RA than elsewhere. Here u are the lone monk and often taking a lot of heat and there will be a lot of cases where you'll nearly fill your bar for free. Its a nice big heal. As others said it lacks the utility of other elites. I'd almost prefer taking divert hexes in RA as I swear every team has 2 necros, or 1 necro 1 mes/nec etc etc. Hexes are popular.

Searing, yeah its a bit much. It will get the nerf stick. But really in the context of RA you're just a soft target that will get smashed if you don't have monk support. Its still gross though.

lacasner · Dec 27, 2006, 05:48 PM // 17:48

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Originally Posted by Winstar

Anyway, mending touch/plague touch etc are helpful, but they aren't going to keep you clean and if they blinder knows what they are doing and time it well they can shut you when it counts, i.e. you're about to unload adrenaline or in screwing over your sin chain. But its the cheap spammability thats also annoying.

Yup, it is so spammable even with plague touch or something the blinding is still repetitvly spammed.

trobinson97 · Dec 27, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

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Originally Posted by Jaml

They have to sell Nightfall so the skills are more powerful to lure more customers. It was the same with Factions. In the preview event assassins owned until they got nerfed hard after release. Then Ritus were Protter gods and just before Nightfall they got nerfed to oblivion. Now both Factions classes and most of the skills are nowhere to be seen. So just wait a little bit and they will make all the new skills and classes useless just how they have always done.

Oh yeah, that's balance...

Engel the Fallen · Dec 27, 2006, 06:03 PM // 18:03

Remember kids, new means overpowered. All of the nightfall skills are obviously overpowered now since most of the PvP community would rather steal builds and whine on the forums when their old builds no longer work against new skills.

But oh well, prot bond, chain lightning and ether renewal can use some loving in the nerfed to death and beyond skill category.

Winstar · Dec 27, 2006, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by Engel the Fallen

Remember kids, new means overpowered. All of the nightfall skills are obviously overpowered now since most of the PvP community would rather steal builds and whine on the forums when their old builds no longer work against new skills.

But oh well, prot bond, chain lightning and ether renewal can use some loving in the nerfed to death and beyond skill category.

That something is new does not make it overpowered, otherwise we'd see people running healing ring everywhere

. Obviously its particular skills. the reason people pick out certain skills is that they are simply unbalanced, or at least very very good. The general goal of competitive pvp is of course winning for most people, and if you want to win you want to use the best skills available, which means a lot of people use the same skills because they're bloody good.

Prot bond? Chain lightning? Ether Renewal?